Hes being lauded in many places as admirable for that. Failings that are evidence of deep and chronic character flaws by their nature require a different kind of remediation. What are my options if the operation goes wrong? Plus, listen to Greg Laurie talk about the situation on Pastors Perspectiveclearly the moral failure wasnt that Coy was driving solo in the carpool lane. No one is denying that grace, forgiveness, and redemption are available to him and all of us who are sinners by birth and by choicebut lets focus on the wounded before the wounder. He informed his congregation 2 weeks before he left- leaving them for over 1 1/2 yrs thinking he was building a new church for them. And dont forget that one of MacArthurs disciples, Francis Chan, is constantly preaching that American Christians are too rich and need to give it away to the world, as part of his works-based errors concerning the Gospel. (My friend and I agreed to disagree about Coys handling of Scripture..or, the lack thereof, deciding it would be best to study separately rather than keeping our yearly tradition of doing a combined study.) If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. He had been in hot water in the '90s when multiple women in his church claimed he'd sexually harassed them, but Smith gave him another chance. Any ideas? Florida newspapers are covering it now. BD, the content of what Im stating cannot be denied, I have dialogued many Cavinists and when push comes to shove these are the things they believe, why are they embarrassed by these teachings, or try to deny them. Unfinished art is never pretty. Just like Obama, Tiger Woods a womanizer a piece od scum ..he made his brother apologize in front of the congregation.where was he a coward with no backbone!! Lori, I cant help but remember the hell you went through and how long it lasted. As New Times revealed in an investigation published Tuesday, former Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale Pastor Bob Coy who once led the largest megachurch in Florida was accused in 2015 of. Michael, what is your intention with this? Remember how many people he has helped. Comments are back on at the CC Abuse blog. @MartinLuthersdisciple I have no sympathy for the adulterer. They were expecting it. Sad but true. MLD, I think the Whittenburg door is blocking your ability to understand scripture, Jesus said, do this in memory of me in John 6 when he spoke to them of eating his flesh and drinking his blood, he told them after the crowds left that he was speaking to them spiritually! He was the Passover lamb that they would be internalizing when he died on the cross for their sins! Coy opened it to the Gospel of John, and by the time he hit 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" he said he was weeping uncontrollably. I am not particularly attractive and it never ceases to amaze and disgust me when men will make a fool out of themselves in front of me and horribly, in front of their wives. May we be in prayer for him, lest we be found with that same measurement being measured back unto us. In light of that, the apparent glee/self righteousness voiced by some above/previously sickens me. The church still claims about 20,000 members, and on a recent Wednesday night, thousands of them poured in for a service led by Pastor Sauder, Coy's replacement. At communion are you consuming the actual, real, body and blood of Jesus? My prayer is that the people of God will intercede for this family and stop throwing rocks into a glass house.. As we look at the fall of David, Moses and others in the word, what makes Bob Coy any different then those mentioned. Sure would make the shame easier to bear. The Bible says, let he who is without sin cast the first stone! 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. If youre so incredibly stupid as to think Id print something that inflammatory without proof, I really cant help you. Well, what happened to the $ since there was never a new sanctuary? 25 See, I have told you ahead of time. Let the people who preach the forgiveness of sins demonstrate the message. You are stalling. . Arent you embarrassed by what comes out of your brain? Michael just want you to know the Mark accusing you and positing other nonsense is not me the long time lurker/poster on this site named Mark who goes back many years with you. The children inside the vehicle have no pulse except Diane's son Bryan. He got the idea from Andy Stanley to do satellite churches. Very long period of time needed for restoration and healing. You actually contemplate cheating on your wife because something as trivial as an ad pops up on your FB page? Bob Coy may not have been a good pastor but he was a great Bible teacher (amalekites, perizzites, canaanites OH MY!) Coddington was charged with a misdemeanor and pleaded guilty on April 7, 2005. It cant be, for me and for the entire planet. The MLK trail transcript makes it clear from witness testimony that the MLK crime scene was barricaded by police within 2 minutes of King getting shot. Too bad Christians dont look beyond a mans reputation to the truth. lack of accountability and lack of transparency. There are many adversaries to the life of a believer. Wow, Michael does have some standards, so thats what it takes, not gossip and slander and outright fabrications, but some foul language to wrap up the crap thats being dished out here! In 2006, gubernatorial candidates Charlie Crist and Tom Gallagher personally pleaded for Coy's endorsement, though he declined. Someone else may have more info on this subject. I did. Now you complain about being put into a box. According to Christianity Today, he'd been fired twice before for sexual misconduct, including once after getting caught having sex on church grounds, but kept getting his job back. We Christians are bound by scripture to be Christ-like in these instances. If these Calvanistic preterists would have been around at the time when Jesus ascended into heaven, as the disciples looked up, and the angels said, why do you stand here oh men of Galillee, for in the same way you saw him ascend, he will also descend! they would probably have started arguing with the angel, no he cant come back again corporeally, it would have to be spiritually, because its something that our little tiny minds cant understand, we have to reinterpret what you angels are saying, it must mean a spiritual return, dont you hear them saying, it must mean a spiritual mark on the forehead, it must mean a symbolic 1000 years, it must mean a symbolic 7 years. and on and on they go, they remind me of the Sadducees, who denied the miraculous, well the Preterists have nothing to look forward to as we live in exciting times and see prophecies unfolding before our eyes, they are the nay saying Sadducees of our time, and they want to be included within the pale of orthodoxy, as they follow doctrines that deny the power of God and negate the promises of his soon return! IMO, in situations such as these adultery and the sexual temptation is not the core issue but is rather a symptom. 15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. Our focus as sinners needs to be on the health of our individual, intimate relationship with Him. Moniker perversion sorry for the T trouble. Mark Davis and Clay Hecocks wives were very good friends and I am sure together decided enough was enough from what they knew. Youve turned the sad reality of sin into flaming arrows of hate and spite towards eachother instead of being Christ-like and loving the sinner (everyone). . They always fail to note the huge differences between the king and themselves. In Young Sheldon Season 6 Episode 14 Recap, Cooper's imminent delivery is approaching. This is a test from God and you have failed it miserably my friend. It sure seemed to confuse many when he was with Greg and Chuck at the Harvest Crusade and was present at Chucks memorial. Thankfully, this isnt my first rodeo. not being married doesnt answer the question, thats why i said fornication, or do you feel that if youre not married you can sleep with someone without being married, also when was the last time you viewed pornography?.remember lying is a sin! Stay up to date with the latest Christian news! How am I sure there are details? All materials are posted on the site strictly for informational and educational purposes! Lets see what you have. Let the body of Christ refuse to sever a member. MLD wrote: But I should know better than to engage with people who hold to replacement theology. Bob, in my opinion, respects people that challenge him because hes a competitive type of guy but bring your A game. Ive been married for over 3 decades to the same woman. I think thats a YES! They told me about some others they knew who were part of the less prestigious meals. This whole thing is hard on you, but it doesnt justify what youre doing. even a little. Those who follow this world view of monogamy for a lifetime as you yourself know from your viewing of pornography and thinking of other women while youre being intimate with your wife, know that its bound to fail, because as men we are not wired that way, as much as a woman would want that to be the case, so what it really comes down to is how well each man hides it! Also some of these churches are teaching that there is no rapture but all the prophecies in Revelation have already been fulfilled, and that Nero was the antichrist, so theres a lot of sifting through garbage that you have to go through to find a good church! fllynn, when you describe their teachings as garbage and nonsense, it isnt the truth it is your ungracious interpretation. pS Dont forget to include Delilah in your prayers tonight:). Blessings on your search. Weve had too much of that here lately and it hurts us all. I bet now that this is being covered by the big media outlets that more will come out. Miracles are still happening on earth. "People were really, really hurt," says Colleen Healy, a Broward resident who began following Coy in 1995. You will never be forgotten! This situation needs wisdom, prayer, and inordinately strong men/women to hold their course and see this thing through. Coy's church won the suit plus $81,000 in damages and fees and the city, which organized the event, stopped offering sponsorships out of concern that hate groups might take advantage of the ruling. Though we may seem callous about what has transpired, that could not be further from the truth. Please dont forget them in your prayers that God will put godly counselors in their paths to help them with their pain, their fear, and more than likely their doubt in their own faith. DIANE COY Diane was born and raised in Southern California where, as a high school senior, she gave her heart and life to Jesus as her Lord and Savior. When that sold well, on the spur of the moment they added another day. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. .As well as dcf reports on her. If true that absolutely stuns me. So what your all saying is your stronger than samson, you love God more than David and your wiser than Solomon. If Bob leaves satan wins. I do not think praise Bob poor guy comments should be happening about his noble repentance when so many facts are unclear. I hope wiser minds prevail. And your calling me an idiot seems to indicate that Calvinism is idiocy with which I agree completely! It has nothing to do with the Bible. Your cognitive dissonance is kicking in. I do have issue with his lies, spending money on mistresses, and exposing his wife to STDs. We made a covenant, a lifelong commitment, so we both choose to honor each other and grow old together, day by day, raise a family and, some day, have our children bury us. If there werentBob would just own up. Im sure he was forced to leave and CC is doing everything they can to make sure that he will not be remembered. But the report is true, the blog host reported accurately and now that the rest of the media is reporting the same thing, these voices have quieted down and are left to the long task of relating to a new devastating reality. Embrace him. Does Satan have a body? Lordship doesnt mean sinless but you cant have Jesus as savior without Him also as Lord they go together. Andy, now you are not being honest in fact you are being purposely dishonest. This is not the gospel of Jesus Christ, and the congregation are idol worshipers. (Update: The club has now terminated its relationship with Coy and says it had no inkling of the allegations against him.) Stop being so vindictive and pray for a Christian brother, his wife and children. However, Bob has disqualified himself, perhaps for the rest of his life, from the office of Pastor. The problem here is, that you are a skeptic, period. Many asked what where his motives for this if not selfish and serve serving and THAT is NOT of GOD!!!!!! OK, then dont tempt them by giving them too much power and authority. Not good. I honestly applaud you. The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him through the process of full repentance, cleansing and restoration.". I have always been amazed I wouldnt know how to tell a dirty joke or swear in front of a strange woman. "If Calvary gives these pastors this much authority and they use and abuse it with no accountability, they have to blame themselves.". He will heal it. Coy wouldn't be charged over her allegations. A jury awarded the family $360,000 but ruled Calvary wasn't culpable. Andy, did you get your 691 out of a Chick comic book? @ 395 I posted a link- Please read it. Youve met your match http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/81264743769/what-were-reading. Good idea, Michael can we get you to confess like Coy? Oh, Florida of little faith! {} 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious. 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want. It is my hope and prayer that you find healing and peace. Lots of supportlots of informationas well as a lot of CC nuts. They chose to ignore the explosion that created and run all their services as normal anyway. Can Bob recover? He instructs and guides us into all truth, and seals us for the day of redemption. Pride paves the way to infidelity and/or sexual indiscretions. Im in good standing with my church and those Im accountable to. We all had the church turn its back on us as if we were liars and the pastor had his boardaka henchmen literally try to chase my family out of town to keep us quiet. 2:10). Gods speed in healing for all. Dusty you make an excellent point. But after a short time, good old Martin Stephan was caught diddling the girls and dipping into the funds. Muhammad Ibn-Raqib : You are so right ! NOBODY forget that because yes i kniw he did something bad but god doesnt deserve you walking away from him for a mans mistake. Youve mentioned Ashley and Connie so I get the impression you have respect for them, talk with them I know them both, not well but they are both solid to say the least. How is that any different than the Bob Coy situation? He resigned he was not fired! It works so it is a kind of method of delivery now. Sources tell Charisma News there was a positive response from the staff and congregation. Leadership is not a right, its a privilege. The subject was brought up suggesting that church and Flynn was correct in most of his post which addressed those issue. all speculation your honor. Im a wretched sinful person. Here is a synopsis of the core beliefs that Coral Ridge list on their website. What is HIS selfish and SATAN centered motive for this exposure?????? All I have published are the bare facts that I could verify through multiple sources. Jesus must be so proud of all of us right now:(. Coy is twisting in the wind. As far as I can see Bob Coy hasnt been allowed to stay in his sin like the WV thing was about last week. We are all sinners, we are taught to forgive, and I forgive you. When the Pastor goes to a local college and tacks posters all over on his upcoming Bible study Did Jesus really have s+x? This is what is so frustrating to me. Not judge him!! After all fired makes for a much better scandal then resigned. And, I dont see anyone coming to the defense of his co-sinners why not all since you defend one of the sinners so vigorously? 8. Ill note #10 as I update the article shortly. Diane Coy is scheduled to speak at womans conference in ccphilly in a couple of weeks. Pastor Robert Coy, the former Las Vegas casino entertainment director turned religious leader for one of Florida's biggest megachurches, has been accused of molesting a 4-year-old girl. Was he so selfish that his ego got so big he was ABOVE THE LAW??? Based on what you know about this situation, would you confirm Coys doctrine did not produce sound (healthy/whole) fruit? I have. I got tired of responding to the nonsense. Olivia Wilson is the senior news writer for TV Acute. "But we need to remember it is Jesus Christ who is our leader and not man.". I blame myself somewhat for allowing myself to be afraid of confronting him since I had no physical evidence. 5. The reason for the resignation is a "moral failing," according to Calvary Chapel leaders, as reported by the Christian Post. but dont confuse the two ! He resigned he was not fired! How many people attend your church, I want to make sure your crusading vendetta against CC is not born out of jealousy, for a work that God has raised up in these last days and the devil through people like you is attacking incessantly! 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Sin nature is pervasive no matter who you are in church culture. If this is all true theres a lot of lessons to learn here and maybe its time people started apologizing to Rick Warren who has demonized through the years. The other four kids were dead on the spot. So here is one for you. Is it ok, in your world view, that I feel a profound sadness at the pain and destruction his betrayal has caused him and those in his universe? I guess most of us would not have let Peter preach at pentacost so soon after denying Christ! March 4, 2023. One harsh standard for othersthen grace! and mercy! and not the same standard when its time for the pastor to pay for his sins. Brian is extensively involved in missions and church planting around the world. I have nothing that suggests what you just said is true. He claims his record as pastor at Calvary Chapel was unblemished by sexual harassment or molestation claims. Not everything that calls itself Christian, actually is. Again, welcome. Hugh, You showed nother in John 6. I have been tempted to be unfaithful, yeah, and its not funny. The revelations come at a sensitive moment for Calvary's national network of about 1,800 churches, which have been riven by legal infighting and dogged by claims that bad pastors have been allowed to run amok. 7. What about them? Maybe thats a byproduct of not letting women hold leadership positions. This brother is as Gay as a Goose! Neo Coral Ridge does not the same doctrinal position as CCFL. I dont take pleasure in his fall but it appeared inevitable. (It's unclear if he worked there.) Facebook gives people the power to share. I travel almost an hour to CCFTL because I was well fed there. When confronted with his sin he stepped down, he could have fought it or refused to step down as many have, but he didnt. People have confused us before and want to make sure I am not associated with his strange ideas. Thats the issue. By that account we are all guilty, except it would seem for MLD. This dynamic makes guys like Coy hide their sin for a long time b/c they know if theyre caught, the game is up and theyre exposed for not being saved or not being specially anointed etc in the CC mindsetand they lose their power and career. STOP SPREADING GOSSIP PLEASE. Can you provide some more info links, etc.? What else do you claim to know better than Jesus. This is very important Michael. Pastor Bob Coy left with his family. I just wish I could walk away from everything with millions in my pocket when I get caught. I would also see their wives looking at them and nudging them. Did you answer the questions? So, what about babylons Dread is his theology from Homer Simpson? Carry on. By 1986, his church had outgrown the funeral parlor and attracted about 1,200 regulars to an Oakland Park chapel. I could.just throw up from the intentions of the church, surely the Spirit of God is more grieved in this than the sanctification process that may be happening in my home church. This is the real price of sin in our lives, fully on display. Bob Coy is very intimidating and you cannot cross him. We are at that place. Thats right, his own church leadership did the judging. If his marriage survives and I hope it does Bob will have to spend the rest of his days on his knees begging their forgiveness and thanking God for giving especially her too him. Its human nature. Decades of life wasted. . Barbara first off, that was not the question. I do not judge him. It looks like the CC movement is quickly passing. Trust me here, I will assure you, none of us here will ever hope to represent Jesus as well as those 4 books. come now and get real it is plain as day, that if you really read the Bible with all your heart you would know that the mark of the beast is a bar code stamped on your forehead. Give Mercy and you will find mercy ! All Rights Reserved. She spends too much money on collectables and is enamored with movies, comics, and television series. I dont think Ive ever seen this happen quite so quickly. Krent, My name is Allan Adams. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Messiah! or, There he is! do not believe it. (tvacute.com)Here we explained everything. Cant seem to wonder if Pastor Clay knew something and that is why he resigned the end of last year. But that was a church that brought non-believers in by the busloads. Too much too soon. I believe it was originally 103 until those 2 donors backed out. I also pray he has the right people alongside him-people that truly care about him-like we did. I have witnessed decades of the David example being taught by CC pastors to justify restoration of sexually sinning leaders. He has opportunity to confess, repent and turn back to the faith he knows so well. I do agree with Dread as well in general and for many folks as well. Amen brother. If this is untrue or these are unlawfully exaggerated claims the. My only advice for you regarding any place that is demanding blind loyalty/obedience is this: run and find a place where you trust the pastor and yet also feel that you have the freedom for healthy disagreement. Coy, who has also been divorced from his wife, is reportedly looking into the prospect of starting a new church again despite the controversy. "We loved him because of his realness. His church fought in 2002 to remove LGBT people from protection under Broward's Human Rights Ordinance, and Coy loudly defended George W. Bush's disastrous Iraq War: "I believe in war because it's biblical, scriptural, and religious," he told his followers in one sermon. . We had to depend on recommended books and the Lord.and blogs like this. Also, there was the whole matter of Sharon not wanting to be revived in the event that something goes wrong, which enabled her to have more control over the outcome than it would have been possible otherwise. 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